Twin peaks production design richard hoover interview

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Take #05 // Twin Peaks

For a show named after a town, location was probably always going to be of utmost importance to any success or otherwise.

Responsible for it’s distinct visual identity was production designer Richard Hoover, at the time a theatrical art director and scenic artist waiting for a big break in screen, now a multi-award winning production designer of both stage and screen. 

Hoovers design sensibilities brought a weight and plausibility that went a long way to establishing the shows unusual atmosphere; in short, the look was so straight that when things go strange they feel very strange indeed.

In an extensive interview Hoover takes us behind those iconic scenes to reveal his thoughts on the part design played in the success of the series.

 

twin peaks production design richard hoover The Sheriff's Office, with added directorial chair

The Sheriff’s Office, with added directorial chair

 


Main Feature

FM: Welcome Richard. Let’s start at the very beginning. How did you get involved in the project? Did you actively pursue or did it just arrive on your doorstep unannounced?

RH: I was in Grad school at the University of Minnesota. I happened to meet Warren Frost who was teaching there, I did plays for him and met his sons as a result. Years later I went to Telluride Festival and happened to see a film with Mark’s name on it.. At that time Warren lived in Los Angeles, I think I got Mark’s number from him and I called him to congratulate him on the film, which of course was the pilot for Twin Peaks. He asked what I was doing and invited me over. I then met Greg Feinberg and we talked about the series that was upcoming…they invited me to join and shortly after introduced me to David.

So what was your actual experience at that point? You had worked on films as a set decorator/art director and done some TV movies but I think Twin Peaks was the first TV show that you had production designed in full?

Correct. At that point I had done theatre sets and had, in the mid 80’s, migrated to Los Angeles to pursue design for film. At that point I didn’t know much about how one does that. Twin Peaks was a trial by fire with a need for a fast learner. The show was really the first time I practiced set design in the real world of TV and there I was constantly under pressure.

What was the feeling on set going in? Was there any idea what the show would become such a hit and create such a legacy of a huge and dedicated fan following or the establishment of the trend for high quality ‘box set’ TV shows?

We had no idea of the particular potential of the show but we enjoyed its journey, its goofiness and the mix of humour and drama. It was really a good time. We shot the first episodes and they would be then on the air the following week…some of the crew would meet to get food and watch the show. During this time we became even more excited by what we were seeing and what we were doing.

I think this enjoyment really comes across in those early shows but how was the working environment as the show developed? There was famously a lot of tension between studio and writers. Did this affect the design process at all?

We started with very little time to get things ready. I had the reference from the pilot show, some location photos etc. I went from there under the guidance of Greg, Mark and David. The reality was that we had to move fast, we had to build quickly and so much of the time I was allowed to get things going with very little problem from the writers. If I remember correctly the series was written before we started the first season so Mark had a clear trajectory of what we needed to make and or find. The network actually was never a hold up…this was David’s and Mark’s show and we were there to get it going as they saw it.

 

One Eyed Jacks - Twin Peaks production set by Richard Hoover

Set for the office at One Eyed Jacks

To get more design specific, Lynch is a director with a great spatial awareness. In other words the places he creates on screen are always of great importance to the narrative, they are like characters themselves. How was it working with a director with a strong visual drive? Were there any specific challenges? 

The spaces were treated as locations within a 4 wall reality riffing on material themes of the Pacific Northwest: stone, wood, moss, rain, dirt.. The series depended on altered pacing of time, that teased us constantly…eg the lynch effect. We wanted that we see character in environment from a specific normal place in the American idiom.

We had real ceilings and real walls white the camera often used wide shots, real and literal spacing of rooms and halls. The series is a celebration of the mystical in the midst of the organic woods of the north west with the repeated question: what really lies beneath the comfortable and banal reality of these characters. Surface context of spaces was linked always to geography of where the story was set: the NORTH WEST mountains. This demanded that we embrace the atmosphere of the North West: fog, rain, wood all with an idea that the landscape was more or less like a primordial soup for the story.

The challenges location wise were to find the story in the LA area, a rather dry place, while the story was wet and over grown. We gravitated to any place that has pine or fur trees, wood buildings, log structures etc. On stage the problems were mainly how to fit everything into the warehouse in Van Nuyes… at times we built sets within sets. We often did not know if Sets would be used again or not.

 

Room - Twin Peaks production set by Richard Hoover


Was the working environment very prescriptive as a result or were your team able to bring much to the table?

Both are true: demands to match the pilot became the leading idea at first while we were able to riff from there on both the banal and mysterious settings.

Did you get to see the scripts in full before you started to design?

At times yes in the first season. The Second season was more difficult since writing was going on during shooting.

The show is a mix of soap opera, police procedural and the supernatural, that’s quite a mixture. But you managed to reflect each element in the set design – there is a naturalism but also a ‘studio’ quality. Was there an over-riding concept to adhere to?

The sets were built on stage which perhaps gave them a gloss of unreality, although some were studies on the mundane in a suburban America. While looking into the banal, we wanted mystery in the appearance of the real. But really mystery is the step child of pacing, acting, and method of shooting which of course is true of the humor.

I think Lynch celebrates the normal in which both funny and dark things might occur…but all are based on something apparently real.

Hotel Bar - Twin Peaks production set by Richard Hoover On set photograph

On set photograph of Great Northen Hotel from Twin Peaks. Set design by Richard Hoover

Behind the scenes on the Great Northern Hotel set

I always like the fact that the stage sets have a very sumptuous quality for the most part. Was this all genuine or did you employ some tricks to create that high-end look on a budget?

The wood in some gave it a rich feeling…eg we use real pine planking and real stain to get the woodiness there. I think it speaks to the producers that allowed making as well as exploration of the rich and some times outrageous kinds of places.   Also it probably reflects that I had not come from a tv design world (three wall sets, hard lighting) but rather from a world of discovery. No one told us how to do it we just did it. Also we embraced detail, and a whole environment into which out characters lived….again each kind of place reflected the dynamics of wealth vs working class in the TP community.

 

 

On set photograph of Roadhouse (Bang Bang Bar) from Twin Peaks. Set design by Richard Hoover

On set in the Roadhouse

 

How many sets were there on total? What was the percentage between location settings and studio sets?

Maybe 10 on stage, several in storage. Mostly over 7 days we were two days out of the stage, but this depended on the script.

Could you detail where you built the sets, which studio, lot etc?

We were in warehouses near the Van Nuys airport on the west side…never on a studio lot but always in our zone.   Sets were built either on stage in these locations. We had two large spaces and could build while they were shooting. Eventually we had a shop off campus. Set dressing stored where it could…

How long was the schedule in which you had to complete the sets?

We had about 6 weeks to do the initial design and build for the first season. (Big Pine Lodge, the hotel lobby, café, hall, and office, the police station, the dr house, the diner etc)

For a European certain sets scream ‘America,’ some even seem familiar, as if extracted from other TV shows and films. Was it the shows intention to create a stereotypical pastiche in terms of setting to create a recognisable grounding on which to build the fantastical elements of the rest of the story?

The story is set in a “normal” American town that speak to a very archetypal America. Residences spoke to a “normal” banality as did the police station and diner. The hotel reflected the rather kitsch of a lumbering area where wood and rock are brought inside to reflect what is outside. And in these normal places the abnormal has seemingly taken root… Forces of darkness, man made or mystical, lurk within and just below the skin of normal America. This was Lynch and Frost’s milieu. And here while rooms seem normal suggestive “evil” boils and digs in. This was true of environments as well as characters.

Some of the sets are real locations like the Sheriffs office and Double R diner. If shooting on location how much dressing was necessary? Did you recreate the interiors in the studio?

The pilot was done on location west and east of Seattle. I should say that I did not do the pilot. Locations there were sometimes duplicated for the series based on photos taken during the scouting. Yes…we recreated and expanded these sets for the stage work which kept the work mostly in Los Angeles. Some second unit work was done back up in Washington State.

How were these locations found? A lot of scouting?

At the start we designed and built. Scouting happened simultaneously. We gravitated anywhere with pine and fur trees for exteriors in an effort to suggest the Northwest… Interiors were sought that also reflected both the mundane Americana   and the woodsy feel the piece needed.

Did you make use of existing sets from other shows, with a bit of retrofitting? Maybe there are some surprises with elements that came from other shows that we might know?

All the stage sets were original builds.

Of course some exteriors are in LA. How hard was it to match exterior etc so it looked like the North West? I feel some of the locations you used seem familiar from shows like The Man From Uncle through to Desperate Housewives, would I be right in that thinking?

Gosh, I do not know these shows well enough to make a comment. As said earlier we found places with trees in abundance…that had the north woods feel, and that also might reflect the Americana feel in the story. Note that in the area, such as Alta Dena and Pasadena, we relished the existence of rows of craftsman homes, and ,any streets that were lined with pines. This type of housing built in the early 20th Century were common in the Northwest and indeed throughout the USA.

Now to get on to something very particular, lets talk about the iconic set of Twin Peaks. Of course, I am talking about the Red Room.

Sure. The Red Room was a design from Lynch which he created for the pilot. I then re-produced it for the series.

What I love about the Red Room set is that it has huge presence and yet is a very simple idea. Also, it seems very scalable in that it sometimes it seems very large and yet can be very small. In many ways, the perfect set as I imagine it was also quite cheap to build? Can you reveal how it was put together?

The red room was all on stage…I guess maybe 30 foot square…hard to remember. Drapery was done professionally by industry drapers working with the set decorating group. We then had a grid from which we hung our drape pipes….the floor was built up of two layers of MDF and with masonite over to allow for smooth painting.

And finally, to close, looking back now all the sets but the Red Room particularly, seem to be very much a forerunner of what some people call ‘retro-chic.’ On the show you took elements from all over, adding them together to create something very stylised. This influence is now seen everywhere, particularly in other film material, Wes Anderson springs to mind. We also see it in interior design of homes, restaurants, offices etc. Did you the show set out to openly make such a design statement?

We did not design to become a style but rather to fit the wacko world found in the Northwest. Lynch and Frost created the idiom and we sought out sets and dressings to run with it. Retro was not discussed although it was implicit in the making of a “normal” America.

 

On set photograph of rail carriage from Twin Peaks. Set design by Richard Hoover

The rail car murder scene set, undressed

 


Commentary

In the 25 years since it originally aired it has become something of a media industry cliché that Twin Peaks redefined American television and laid the groundwork for today’s #boxsetbinge serials; high quality productions that capture the imagination and get you hooked by delivering entertainment by the Ben & Jerrys bucket load. Whether it did or not is debatable but beyond argument is the fact that the show managed to achieve the enviable heights of being both an instant smash hit and a second series cancellation and has enjoyed the pleasure of finding an ever increasing audience over the last 25 years.

I admit to being part of that late-adopting audience. In true Twin Geeks terms I am a mere lightweight. I didn’t watch a full episode until 2004 but, nevertheless, I knew who Bob was and, more importantly, why he was at the end of the bed; I knew what and where the Red Room was or wasn’t; the title sequence with its synth-drenched theme tune and juxtaposition of documentary visuals and obscure green/brown typography never failed to install a mix of apprehension and melancholy.

Surely, it must be fairly unique for a TV show to be able to achieve this in a viewer who hadn’t actually seen a full episode? For me Twin Peaks is not the series that redefined television and created the modern serial drama but rather it is extraordinary because it’s a mainstream show that is less about character and story and more about the establishment of pure atmosphere through design.

The goal of any production design is that it should be invisible, not unnoticeable and boring but rather so natural and authentic-feeling that we never question it being a fabrication. All of this is true on Twin Peaks and more so. So specific is it in the creation of its settings that the location’s become characters in their own right.  The production values are high and there isn’t one set that doesn’t look like everything hasn’t been meticulously placed. There seems to be such an emphasis on realism that it becomes hyper-real.

Take the ’Welcome’ sign that introduces the show; it looks exactly like the type of sign that welcomes the visitor to most US towns but amplified. This approach carries on through the rest of the set design. All situations look plausible and yet they all have a slightly askew element that has the effect of unsettling the viewer; the Palmers house feels too squeaky clean, the bars and diner perhaps too firmly tick the ‘American’ box, the hotel with its heavy wooden somehow too prestige and too Native American influenced.

Throughout proceedings runs a pure vein of Hopper-esque (both Edward and Dennis) Americana, a place of both neon-drenched roadhouses and blinding white picket fences. In other words, very human spaces. But, as the show tells us, all that apparent normalcy is always surrounded by the Big Country, a place where the spirits of old still dwell.

This approach is best exemplified in the moments of outright strangeness, the apotheosis of which being when narrative meets design and medium in a perfect symbiosis to create the openly theatrical Red Room, an odd looking staging populated on-screen by strange beings and mediated to us via strange editing techniques. the counterpoint creates an incredible resonance.

It’s feels like easy journalism to say that Twin Peaks redefined TV. My thought is that it didn’t really. As a show it very much adheres to the formula of commercial episodic television i.e. cliff hanger endings, story arcs over a series etc. It also is very happy to borrow heavily from crime procedurals, supernatural thrillers, soap operas, situation comedy et al. But in so doing it redefined what we think of TV.

Peaks showed us that through design TV doesn’t have to be cinemas poor cousin, it can take it on, and as the plethora of shows that have followed have shown, in many cases actually win.

 

Behind the scenes of Twin Peaks. Set design by Richard Hoover

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